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A constitutional convention has a task, relatively concrete and relatively
narrow: to create a constitution in which all parties can have some
substantial ownership.
To accomplish such a task, there are a variety of sub-tasks, all of which
have a much more important completion date than date of initiation (since,
de facto, they've all begun). Shall we, first, agree on the tasks, and then
agree on the dates for a draft response to each task, and then on dates for
"votes" or discussions or disagreements or amendments for those products?
I would suggest some tasks include:
Mission: one paragraph, universal agreement, consensus decision, with
amendments by 4/24, and decision by 4.27
Goals: no more than six, general agreement, plurality decision, with
language by 4/27, an decision by 4/29.
Objectives: no more than three per goal, general agreement, majority
decision, with language by 4/29, decision by 5/1
Governance & structure, general agreement, plurality decisions, with
internal deadlines for language by 5/1, decision by 5/7:
Committees, roles and leadership, agendas, schedule, and deliverables
for 1998, by 4/27
Executives, terms & selection process: titles, election process,
incorporating Committee structure, by 5/1
Constituencies, individual, association, national or other kinds of
affiliates, addressing Committees & elections, by 5/5
That sounds like plenty of stuff, but any other ideas? Are the deadlines
unrealistic?
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From: owner-keyone-l@Hawaii.EDU [mailto:owner-keyone-l@hawaii.edu]On
Behalf Of Steve McCarty
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 1998 8:20 PM
To: Mary Ellen Nourse
Cc: keyone-l@hawaii.edu
Subject: Re: Constitutional Convention
Mary Ellen wrote
>At what time (approximately) will the Constitutional Convention begin?
Well, let's keep in mind that the Convention is asynchronous, and the span
can be flexible without hotel reservations to worry about. It's Monday
morning here in Japan, but still Sunday in the Americas. Because of my
class schedule, I'd like to propose as much as possible today and then be
quiet for a couple days, and please see if you don't like my proposals.
Are there others who have worked in a Legislature, on constitution
writing and reform, or have led national organizations? Anyway, the
time synchronization issue points out the need for cyberspace
parliamentary procedures, a sort of Cyberbot's Rules of Order. E.g.,
"Who has the floor?" "Yeah, buddy, this is Jones the porpoise at the
Great Barrier Reef, and I'm quite near the floor." I think we could
develop parliamentary procedures for new age organizations, and it
could be proprietary knowledge of our organization for consulting
other organizations and so forth. If I had the time I'd go through each
principle of Robert's Rules of Order and consider how the _principle_
applies to the new medium.
Before we set up _subject-specific_ committees (including K-12 and
non-traditional higher education), we more urgently need Steering
Committee members and others to lead or participate in certain
_organizational_ committees and appointed roles. Besides
parliamentary procedures, we need disinterested volunteers to
compile agreed-upon points, keep track of the growing list of
Steering Committee members, receive votes and proctor elections.
Also consider what is part of the Constitution _per se_ and what
belongs in the Bylaws, such as committees and specific definitions of
posts. The Statement of Purpose in the Constitution can also help us
draft the letter inviting the rest of the online education world to join us.
Those who could serve as disinterested volunteers please contact me at
<steve_mc@ws0.kagawa-jc.ac.jp>.
As for exactly when the Convention will start, there will be a message
on the Web BBS starting something like: "Ahhhem. Testing 1,2,3. Can you
hear me? Ladies and gentlemen, let us make history starting today ..."
Steve McCarty
Professor, Kagawa Junior College, Japan
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I would suggest some tasks include:
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Subject: Re: Constitutional =
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>At what time (approximately) will the Constitutional=20
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Well, let's keep in mind that the Convention is =
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Are there others who have worked in a=20
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time synchronization issue points out the =
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Also consider =
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Those who could serve as =
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