> What do you think of the idea of making a Constitution with enough of a
> structure to allow for offices, the committee system, elections and
> other parliamentary procedures for the time being? That is, instead of
> waiting weeks or months for all the details of the Bylaws to be formed
> (some of which depend on incorporating the organization somewhere), we
> could try to pass the Constitution and make the organization official as
> soon as possible.
Here is a tricky thing. Namely what do we mean under term 'official'. Does
it mean accepted by some concrete state and laws or accepted by us- WAOE
friends.
If we want to register WAOE officially... we must think of our voting
system. Currently I do not know any country which accepts email voting as a
legal document. So to found an organization we need either F2F meeting or we
need to undersign the same votes we did via email. After signing, as we are
international, these letters must also be notarized. And in some cases and
countries things are even more complicated. E.g. ( I had such experience
with official communication with Germany) the country where we send this
letter may say that "sorry, our country does not have a permisssion to check
which notarial office is legal and which one not in your country. So you
have to get a stamp from your country's Foreign Ministry that the notary
which notarized your letter is existing offically..... And you know, this
fun takes weeks, if not months to accomplish.
Experience I had, took place 3 years ago, so maybe Germany and Estonia
(which is on the way to European Community) trust more now each other. But
in case of several states this will be for sure an issue.
Maybe we should ask lawyers to help us in this?
There are different lawyers out there in the world. Some of them are even
very good. Will Fwd. this message to
Scott Somerville <Scott@hslda.org> A friend of homeschoolers and he also
knows about Internet. (Hi Scott, maybe you have some time to suggest how we
should create an offical organization internetionally with minimum
efforts?).
What's about showing Steve's Constitution to different lawyers in different
countries? Sure in each country there are some lawyers seeking for short
time voluntary job....
Currently seems that the best solution here (if there is really no way to
make voting system legal more easily) is to keep number offical membership
(founders) as possibly small. This means to overlive this clumsy F2F meeting
or perhaps more possibly going through notarial firewalls in a smaller
circle.
And then concentrate on simple membership. And make WAOE so open
organization that coming non-voting members have a power, not a voting
power, but the power public opinion has....
The same system is how I see parents (K-12 level) are governing the life of
schools. If they do not like, they choose another school.
Thanks for your time and sunshine,
Mihkel
P.S. Now I want to apologize a little bit.. Just feeling sad because of the
message "OTH and TS journals" I posted to WAOE list last friday. Own an
explanation. This message was not to attack prof. James Morrisson or PH.D.
status. Just made a small and friendly joke on business community marketing
systems in education. But without knowing the backround of the story this
message may really seem offernsive.
Prof. James Morisson has done a wonderful job with OTH. And he has managed
to keep the content there interesting for developers... but of course in
other hand thi smeans that there will never be millions of subscribers.
But thats what his sponsors are expecting.
OK, wil try to do better jokes next time.
--
Mihkel Pilv
MIKSIKE
Veski 1-2, EE2400, Tartu, Eesti
Tel: 372 7/ 422 550
Fax: 372 7/ 421 841
Email: info@miksike.ee
WWW: http://www.miksike.ee (Eesti)
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> Besides keeping up with the initiatives of members
> which keep running ahead, the biggest reason is to be able to invite the
> rest of the world to get involved as soon as we have at least a mailing
> list to hold them all (not just to have them visit our Website and then
> leave). The question would just remain, do we hold the elections before
> (with a small number of people who know what has gone on) or after
> inviting thousands of people? True, it takes narratives beyond the
> Constitution to explain WAOE, but these will get a lot more action than
> waiting for Bylaws--that the committees can help draw up if they get
> formed. So I suggest, take a shortcut to becoming official, and invite
> the world as soon as we're ready to process their memberships. That
> might about coincide with the time to prepare our narrative explanation
> of WAOE, how the need was recognized and so forth. Maybe the place for
> the Preamble is out there on all the discussion lists and Websites where
> we each have networks of esteemed colleagues. What do you think of this
> course of action? In any case I've posted a new "Draft Constitution
> Articles I-V of VI" on the WebBBS, so take a look at URL
> <http://155.43.48.225:2020/cgi-bin/wao6.pl>.
> Collegially,
> Steve McCarty
> Professor, Kagawa Junior College, Japan
> steve_mc@ws0.kagawa-jc.ac.jp
> http://www.kagawa-jc.ac.jp/~steve_mc/epublist.html
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Mihkel Pilv
MIKSIKE
Veski 1-2, EE2400, Tartu, Eesti
Tel: 372 7/ 422 550
Fax: 372 7/ 421 841
Email: info@miksike.ee
WWW: http://www.miksike.ee (Eesti)
http://www.miksike.com (English)